Tuesday, March 26, 2013

Liberal, Democrat, Progressive, Pro-choice




  • Pro-choice on reproduction, check.

  • On schools, yeah, progressive liberals support teachers, investment in education and better learning environments, and basically anything research and empirically based. Don't support the status quo when it's proven ineffective.

  • Guns? Of course we are pro-choice. As pro-choice as we are about doctors and airline pilots. People who wield guns should be stable non-criminals who are capable and responsible enough to wield the gun, so they should have a license, should be certified, should have to undergo regular checks to ensure they remain qualified, and if so, and they want to own a firearm, that's fine. Is there anyone who thinks that a gun is less dangerous than an airplane? Than an automobile? Than a surgeon or other doctor? Heck, you need to be licensed and certified to scuba-dive

  • Trade - we support trade that is fair and balanced. Not trade with countries that charge less for goods because of human rights violations, or harmful poisonous polluting practices

  • Health care - pro-choice again - the ability to choose care and not die thanks to for-profit insurance companies, not choosing the super disgusting rich over the sick, yes we choose that. We also support the option to pay more for additional private insurance if you want that conscierge level of service and can afford it, I guess we don't choose to let people die in the richest country in the world just so a few really really rich fuckers can be even really really richer.

  • Energy - we are pro-choice too - choose to use renewable energy (the 174 petawatts falling on the earth, since we only need 16 terawatts, so we have 11000 times more energy than we need without mercury, carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, soot, and a host of other toxins and poisons in the air and water. We choose to have the facts and not let the shell game and smoke and mirrors lies being spewed by vested interests detract for decades of hard science and basic physics.

  • We are pro-choice on smoking, as long as the smokers pay extra in taxes to pay for the disproportionate amount of health care they will require, not to mention lost productivity and wages that will impact any company they work for. And as long as the smokers don't smoke in areas where there liberty to smoke infringes on the rest of our ability to breath non-toxic air

  • Pro choice on unions, hell yeah, we support unions, and the right for citizens to choose to be a part of unions, UNLIKE corporations that try to union bust

  • Pro-choice on light bulbs, sure do - we choose the safest and most efficient, and if people want to use Flintstones era lightbulbs (that are really very efficient heaters that happen to give off some visible light) then let them, but they should be taxed accordingly, as is fair for taking a disproportionate amount of the nation's resources and services, causing more pollution, more wear and tear on the nation's infrastructure, and so on.

  • Pro-choice on bags, again, yes, we choose to have the option of using our own reusable ones, never saw anyone forcing anyone else to be responsible

  • Walmart - pro-choice, we want everyone to be able to choose when fully informed, when they know that they are not paying $1.00 for 10 pairs of sox, because they are bearing the cost of all the walmart employees who are on welfare and on high cost subsidies that all us tax-payers pay, b/c walmart is effectively lobbying congress to avoid paying them a fair wage.

  • Pro choice on what foods you can eat? Again, hell YES, we want our foods labeled. If you WANT to eat poison and toxin, go for it - put the label on the box and let people choose with information, not lie to them and use their ignorance to sell them poison and toxins in the form of colorful vittles.


Yes, this is absolutely correct, except for the "except".

What I don't get about libertarians is that they often argue strongly in favor of large corporations that are intentionally hiding information from average citizens. I'd be all for libertarianism if most citizens were not so ignorant of the facts at hand. And I don't blame the ignorant citizens - 7 times out of 10 at least, it's because of powerful, well monied organizations intentionally misinforming large groups of citizens, or using fear tactics, or other psychological warfare tactics to manipulate the masses.

If you are a libertarianism and you think that being lied to and manipulated and misinformed is ok and that it is fair and that everyone should be able to sift thru the morass of misdirection and then make an informed intelligent choice against all those odds, then I don't know how to counter that. If you don't think that the basis for good decision making is having the facts - having the truth - not being lied to. Then, there really is no hope. I'm aware that there are a lot of religious people.. and obviously people who swallow those lies despite all the evidence to the contrary are very good at lying to themselves and each other and seeking solace in ignorance instead of embracing reality, not to go on a tangent against religion, I'm just saying that there's a lot of people who provide clear empirical evidence that facts and truth are not always the most important things in their life. HOWEVER with that said, for not supernatural mumbo-jumbo issues - for mundane real world issues - like how we ALL pay for the 'low-low-low' cost of Walmart goods, how the nation prospered when unions were empowered and the middle class flourished, how much more expensive a smoker is to society than a non-smoker, how much worse the plastic food we are fed today is for us, how much more it costs in health care, etc - for those mundane issues - shouldn't everyone AT LEAST have access to the facts first, and then let them decide to delude themselves? Rather than hiding it from them by suppressing laws to list ingredients on labels, by banning videos of how food is made, by hiding the cost of wal-mart goods in the public entitlement programs, by denying affordable health care to citizens so they cost us tax-payers 3 times as much, by incarcerating 25% of the nation in private for-profit prisons, etc..

Please...


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